4/11/2011

e-journal #11 (4/12)

Answer the fifth Consideration Prompt to this story on p.844, drawing on and directly discussing your own beliefs and values as you form your response. Remember to revisit the Evaluation Guidelines on p.144-145 for assistance with this assignment.

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  1. The short story, “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway, is about a young couple debating whether or not an abortion should be taken place. The setting is described to be in a train station in Spain. The man is an American and the woman traveling with him is named Jig, whom we as the reader are unsure of her marital status. The American wants Jig to abort, as he sates, “We can have the whole world. […] And once they take it away, you never get it back” (Hemingway 842). The American sees the pregnancy as taking their life and freedom away. A line that could have more than one meaning would be when Jig states, “Everything tastes of licorice. Especially all the things you’ve waited so long for, like absinthe” (Hemingway 841). One interpretation could be that the American sees everything in life as the same taste, meaning that the American may view life as simple and his problems as all can be resolved. Another interpretation could be that licorice and absinthe are not the topic of discussion. But yet again, Jig does not exactly say what’s on her mind. She clues the reader in about her anger by, in a way, insulting the American and using his word in her response. The short story ends with the two getting ready to get on the train. The American asks how she feels and she replies, “There’s nothing wrong with me. I feel fine” (Hemingway 843). This again, proves that Jig masks her true feelings to avoid any tension, which can turn out bad in the end.

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  2. In the short story “Hills like White Elephants” Ernest Hemingway states different lines where one simple line can hold several meanings. For example, “It isn’t our anymore” may interpret as the women in the story and the American man decided to get an abortion. The reason I interpret this line in this manner is that the message that lies under this story is the decision of whether or not to keep the unborn child. Stating “It isn’t our anymore” means that if they decide to abort the child they no longer can claim it. “They just let the air in and then it’s all perfectly natural.” This has a meaning of the process of the abortion. The man is explaining to the girl that the process is quick and that it’s natural. This means that the man is for the abortion while the women is on the fence about the idea. The man seems to be for abortion so that he can continue to live his life and enjoy his youth so he does not have to settle down right now. “If I do it you won’t ever worry?” The meaning of this quote is that the lady is asking the man would he worry if she goes through with the abortion. As this may also mean if she goes through with this decision would they still remain as they did before this situation.

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  3. Honestly, I felt that the story was booring, but very descriptive. In particular, I liked the part when the narrator dedscribed the old lady. I felt that I was there as the stroy was being told to me. It was an awesome feeling. Other than that, I really utterly hated the story. I felt it went on for way too long, and that it was annoyingly irritating.

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  4. The short story, “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway, about a couple waiting for train to Madrid and while they are waiting they are having few drinks and talking. We can see that the drinks is a motif. The setting is countryside, valley there is also a train stop its between Madrid and Barcelona. The girl points out that the mountains look like white elephants. The girl seems helpless, confused and indecisive about her option whether she should get operated or not. She feels that the operation might ruin the relationship they have. “But if I do it, then it will be nice again if I say things are like white elephants, and you’ll like it?” This is where she hints to the guy that she wants to keep the baby, instead of having abortion. The guys really wanted an abortion because he wasn’t ready. The girl asks the guys if things will change if she has an abortion? Or will it stay the same. At the same time he believes that that noting will change their relationship. The white elephants can symbolize an unborn pure child. The girl wants to keep the child so she doesn’t lose the guy. The guy on the other hand doesn’t want to be responsible for child.

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  6. Ernest Hemingway's “Hills like White Elephants” is a short story of a presumably young couple sharing a conversation over drinks while they wait for a train. The setting is a train station on the sunny side of a hill in the Ebro River valley of Spain, “The hills across the valley of the Ebro were long and white” (840). The American is simply referred to as “the man” and the woman is called Jig. They both sit at the bar engaging in small talk about the weather and their beverages at first, but later branch off onto a different topic, one that is not explicitly stated, but implied. Due to the ambiguity of their words, one cannot be entirely sure what they are talking about specifically, however one can draw their own conclusions based on the contextual clues given. The most logical inference would be that they are contemplating an abortion. The man is the one pushing the idea to Jig, hoping that she will agree, but he also says he will not mind if she decides to keep the child, “I don't want you do it if you don't want to. I'm perfectly willing to go through with it if it means anything to you” (843). The line “It isn't ours any more” (842) can hold more than one meaning. One interpretation could be that the world isn't theirs to have anymore because she's pregnant, they have a child now. Earlier, she says “And we could have everything and everyday we make it more impossible” (842), meaning they are young and the world is theirs to explore and experience, but every day they get older and take on more adult responsibilities, leaving behind their youth and freedom.

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  7. Hemingway's "Hills Like White Elephants," opens with the description of distant hills across a river in Spain. An American and his girlfriend sit outside a train station in the heat.The young couple debating whether or not an abortion should be taken place. In reference to the fifth Consideration Prompt to this story (844) a pregnant woman looks like she has the stomach of an "Elephant" certainly not the way most men want to see their lovers and "White Elephant" is use in this form because it stands for something nobody wants, in this case the unborn baby. As they both sit at the bar engaging the idea arise. The "American" is the one pushing the idea to Jig, hoping that she will agree, but he also says he will not mind if she decides to keep the child, “I don't want you do it if you don't want to. I'm perfectly willing to go through with it if it means anything to you” (843).Thus at the beginning of the story the lines "We can have the hold world . ...It isn't ours any more” (842). On the other hand, Jig's is uncertain. In the short story the pronouns turns into general sense of depression and despair between the pair. Even Jig's last remark "I feel fine"(843) is two doubled meaning, Is Jig saying she feels fine about her own situation? her lover is the one with the problem? Is she saying she feels fine, but obviously is not? Or is she just lying to prevent other lengths. But yet, the answer is still undecided, either they have child or get an abortion either way, their lives will change forever.

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  8. The story "Hills like White Elephants" is about a couple decision of getting an abortion. This story holds various meanings between the lines. For example, the girl says "that's the only thing that bothers us. It's the only thing that made us unhappy". It seems that the couple cannot come up with a resolution to their problem. Their issue seems to interfere with their relationship and the girl believes that if she gets rid of the problem, they can move forward with their lives. The girl believes that if she gets the "surgery" her boyfriend will be happy and she could save the relationship. The couple hit an iceberg in their relationship with this situation. The American says "and you think we will be alright and happy"? He feels that if she gets the abortion, their relationship won't be the same. However, the girl thinks that the abortion will be the solution. The girl puts her feelings aside and focuses primarily on how her boyfriend would feel about her procedure.In the passage the girl states, "I don't care about me". She is basically not concerned about her needs. She is more concerned on how her relationship will work out and practically forgets about what would make her happy. Towards the end of the story the girlfriend tried to persuade herself that everything will work out fine and her and her boyfriend will have a future. In the story she said "we can have all of this". She believes that when she gets rid of the baby, the couple can do whatever they want together without any distractions. On the other hand, the boyfriend concluded that "once they take it away, you could never get it back". The boyfriend wants to make sure that his girlfriend feels right about her decision and once she goes through with the abortion, there is no turning back. In the beginning of the story, the girl says, "they look like white elephants". She is referring to the hills but actually in her mind she is debating whether or not if she should have her child. Finally at the end of the story the girlfriend tells her boyfriend "there is nothing wrong with me, I feel fine". It is obvious she is lying to herself because she is having doubts about her decision and she always had that doubt since the beginning of the story. She knows she want to keep the baby but she just want to make her boyfriend happy and have a successful relationship with him.

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  9. The short story, “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway, is about a man and a woman who are discussing future plans on having a "jig". The man tells her that she doesn't have to do it but she, in response, tells him that she will do it as long as he stays with her. Although the author does not say what "jig" is, it sounds as if it might means a certain kind of operation. Throughout the story, there are certain things being said that seem to have more than one meaning to them. For example, when the woman says "It isn't ours any more" I think that it meant that their problem isn't theirs any more because she will take care of it. It could also mean that they do not have the problem they have was never a problem for them in the first place. Another example would be when the woman said "I don't care about me" she could literally mean that she has no concern for her well being (maybe because of self-esteem issues or she just is care free about herself). Or, she can mean that she cares about herself but in this dilemma, she cares more about the man and what he wants more than she cares about what she wants. When the man says "we can have everything" he could mean that agrees with her. He could probably also mean that we can have everything with or without the jig. It could literally mean that they can have their freedom that life has to offer to them.

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  10. “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway, it’s about a couple who is facing a problem. The story took place in a railway station between two lines of rails. The couple is unmarried but the girl is pregnant and the man wants her to have an abortion. Throughout the story Hemingway said, “It isn’t ours any more” and it means that the man don’t want the girl whose name is Jig have the baby. He wants girl to have “awfully simple operation” which is abortion (841). In the story the girl said to the man “We can have the whole world”, and man reply “No, we can’t”. Then she said, “We can go everywhere” then he answer, “No, we can’t. It isn’t ours any more” then she said, “It’s ours” the he replied back, “No, it isn’t. And once they take it away, you never get it back” the she said, “But they haven’t taken it away” (842). It’s clear when man said “once they take it away, you never get it back” which mean the baby but same time the girl said “But they haven’t taken it away” which mean she wants to keep the baby and don’t want to have the operation or abortion. The man believes that the abortion will return their life’s like the way they lived before the pregnancy. He believes that the consequences of having the baby will lead to the breakup of the relationship. Jig, wants to have the baby but same time she doesn’t want lose her boyfriend because she love him. So when Hemingway said, “It isn’t ours any more” it has more meaning than just words itself. It makes the conflict more interesting and it depends on how the readers read or see.

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  11. “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway is a story that entails the dialogue between what seems to be a couple. They are discussing a situation that is not directly talked about. In this story particular, Hemingway has added many lines in which a reader can interpret in many different ways. For example, the guy tell the women “We can have the whole world”, this can mean having the world with or without each other or in other case have the best life has to offer (l.73). In this case, while you read the story, the reader comes to the conclusion that “having the whole world” may mean the continuation of traveling around the world and enjoying beer under the sun. It seems that for this couple traveling is what they love to do the most. So if they let the upcoming issue, that they are discussing, come in between them life would not be the same. But as we see the girl feels fishy about the situation and she feels like she should go through it while the man feels its best to go through it. The love is in sake in this undeceive situation that comes between the two characters in “Hills like White Elephants”.

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  12. The short story, “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway is about a couple deciding on whether or not to get an abortion. The story holds simple lines with several meanings. For instance when the girl says, “it isn’t ours anymore” she means that she has made the decision and that is to get an abortion. Since the couple does not want the baby, she starts to create a distance between them and the baby by saying that the baby does not belong to them. And she does this, so that she might not get attach with the baby and later change her decision. Another meaning to this could be that the girl is just trying to say the phrase “It isn’t ours” just to see how her thoughts might react, so that she could make the decision accordingly. Similarly the dialogues between these two couple, show several meanings. When the guy says, “I think its best thing to do [to get an abortion]. But I don’t want you to do it if you don’t really want to” this means that the guy thinks abortion is the solution, but at the same time he worries about the girl. By providing the girl with an option, he shows that he equally cares about the girl. Another meaning could be that the guy focuses more towards the abortion, because he says, “it’s the best” to give the girl a hint that he wants her to go for the abortion. And he gives her an option simply to make her feel that he cares about her. Anyways his confusing words put the girl in dilemma. The girl is worried what will happen to their relationship if she chooses to abort or if she chooses to keep the baby. The author provides the readers with lines that can have several meaning, so that the story can be unfold in broad ways.

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  13. The short story, “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway, is about a couple trying figure out whether to have an abortion or not. The story starts of with a long description of the secery. My reaction to this story was that I wasn’t very interested in it. The topic of abortion is very interesting to me but this story did not have much taste. And I really did not undertand the girls reaction toward the end when the guy asks the girl whether she feels better. She says she feels fine and that there is nothing wrong with her. I just didn’t understand that, becausse in the beegining she was so cconfused and she didn’t know what to do and at the end she was ok which did not make it an interesting story for me at all. But I don’t feel she should get an abortion because the way her actions were made it seem like she wanted to keep the baby. So y would she give it up just for the guy. This is not uncommon though many couples have this type of discussion. I felt tlike a lot could have been done to make the story a little more interesting even a change of setting would have made it a little more interesting.

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  14. "Hills Like White Elephants," by Ernest Hemingway is about a young couple deciding on whether or not to undergo a operation. "Its really an awfully simple operation," (Line 43). "It isn't ours anymore," can be interpreted many different ways. Jig could be referring to her choices being taken away because of her love for the American. " Then ill do it. Because I don't care about me," (Line 64). It could also be seen as Jig and the American are discussing whether or no have an abortion. They would be giving up their lives to raise a baby if she did not have the operation done. The couple does not want to be unhappy because of the baby. "That's the only thing that bothers us. Its the only thing that's made us unhappy," (Line 50). The repition of a phrase from an author often contains a significant meaning. And even though Hemingway did not fully disclose what the couple was discussing, it can have several different interpretations.

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  15. The short story “Hills like White Elephants”,is about a couple who are having drinks and talking while waiting for a train to Madrid. It seems as if the setting is in a basin at a train station. The couple is deciding whether is should have an abortion or not.However,throughout the story there has been many places where Hemingway says “It isn’t ours anymore”. For example, in lines 78-80 it says “We can go everywhere.” “No, we can’t. It isn’t ours anymore”. When reading this I think that Hemingway meant that its not their choice to go and do whatever they want being that the topic of abortion is being discussed. He also could’ve meant to symbolize something that should have never happened between the couple. Meanwhile, as i continued reading the story, I was not really interested in it. To me I did not like the topic and did not find it to be informing and also didn’t really get a deeper meaning of it.

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  16. “Hills Like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway, starts with a description of the scenery by the train station surrounded by hills, fields, and trees in a valley in Spain. A couple has a conversation going about if his girlfriend should have an “abortion” or not. I personally don’t feel as though the girl wants to go through with the abortion. The reason being that the “American” keeps telling her that “they will go back to being the way they were” and she says to herself “will it really go back to being the way it was after the operation?” The story itself was very descriptive of the scenery however; I feel that there was not enough conversation between the couple about the actual matter taking place which was the abortion. The story was very boring. The author could have done a lot more to make the story come alive, the characters lacked substance. Overall the story was very bland. Also I did not really understand the whole scenery and why the girl kept talking about the hills. It could have been because she was avoiding the conversation or possibly because she just wanted to forget about the situation.

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  17. The short story, “Hills like White Elephants” by Ernest Hemingway narrates a couple’s discussion about an undisclosed topic. It is clearly something that they are on opposite sides of because the man states “It’s really an awfully simple operation, Jig. It’s not really an operation at all”; trying to convince her to go through with the operation (Hemingway, 841). The woman however, is considering doing what her boyfriend asks of her since she asks “Then what will we do afterward?” She wants their relationship to be fixed which is made cleared by her questioning him more and he states “that’s the only thing that bothers us. It’s the only thing that’s made us unhappy” (Hemingway, 841).

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  18. In the short story Hills Like White Elephants by Ernest Hemingway, the boy who is the “American” and the girl who’s name is Jig obviously have different views on abortion. The boy really wants the abortion but his responses and reactions are more childish than Jig’s, who seems to be pro-life. Jig is more realistic when it comes to thinking about life after the abortion. For example, the conversation on lines 74-83 show that Jig is trying to see how the abortion will affect their future and the boy is just thinking as if no consequences will come out of it. When Jig says, “it isn’t ours anymore” she’s talking about the boy’s reference to the world. The baby would have been their “world” but since it is getting aborted, their world will soon be gone. The whole story is confusing everything is not straightforward. A part that really confused me was how could Jig be drinking alcohol, yet contemplating on an abortion with her significant other? It sounds like she was really trying to help get that baby out of her. Especially since she was drinking so much, it may have thrown readers off from thinking she could actually be pregnant.

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  19. Throughout the story "Hills Like White Elephants", Hemingway uses phrases with double meanings to show the tension between the couple or the man's continuing insistence on the woman getting an abortion. For example, when the man says to the woman "Oh, cut it out.", it could be interpreted as his way of bringing up the topic of the abortion. The conversation where they talk about the "hills like white elephants" symbolizes pregnancy with the woman being somewhat enamored by them and the man being dismissive and uncaring about it. "It's just to let the air in" is a reference to the abortion that the man says to convince her of its simplicity. When the woman says "it isn't ours any more", she might be saying that the world belongs to there soon to be child now and not for their own leisure and travel.

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  20. "The Hills White Elephants" by Ernest Hemingway tells the story of this couple struggling with the decision of whether to abort or not.the speaker fully describes the setting of this piece of text which takes place in a train station. personally it is a story that is much debated now and days as people have many different opinions on abortion. Some believe that why bring a child into this world if you can't offer it whats neccesary to survive. While others belive that nonetheless is a man of God and therefore every life should be given the chance to live. So this text is very attracting to many people as it can connect to all human beings.

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  21. Ernest Hemingway's “Hills like White Elephants” is a short story of a presumably young couple sharing a conversation over drinks while they wait for a train. A couple has a conversation going about if his girlfriend should have an “abortion” or not. I personally don’t feel as though the girl wants to go through with the abortion. Throughout the story, there are certain things being said that seem to have more than one meaning to them. For example, when the woman says "It isn't ours any more" I think that it meant that their problem isn't theirs any more because she will take care of it.The girl asks the guys if things will change if she has an abortion? Or will it stay the same. At the same time he believes that that noting will change their relationship. The white elephants can symbolize an unborn pure child. The girl wants to keep the child so she doesn’t lose the guy. The guy on the other hand doesn’t want to be responsible for child.

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